Natural Attraction Stacking, Part 1
Guys,
So we get asked a lot where my method stands in terms of “natural game” vs. “stacking game.”
We’re both.
The reason is that there is no actual difference between the two.
The difference is only a marketing illusion.
Namely, there are a lot of PU orgs that want to sell you the “natural” approach – that just “being yourself” will get you laid, plus you can do it instantly in a bootcamp.
Couple of points I want to hit on real quick before I introduce a great piece of content from one of our master coaches, DJFuji.
Point 1) This is a process – it can’t happen overnight. Natural game is actually learned from loads of drills and real field experience such that you mind can fully unconsciously internalize how social interaction works.
Good “Naturals” have years of PU experience, not a few bootcamps.
Most “Natural” PU purveyors will try to give you that experience by doing bootcamp exercises (drills) and altering your state via various feel good methods like NLP.
These methods are usually actually really good and helpful.
But …
No amount of that will substitute for having a plan.
A “natural” player will never get good without having long, frequent and POSITIVE interactions with women. Remember, this is a process. There are no shortcuts through the process.
Which brings me to Point 2.
Point 2) You can’t get through the process without having a plan of what you are going to say to a girl.
We have seen this time and time again – students that do only “natural” game FAIL miserably after a long time of being frustrated in field because they can’t get consistent results. Moreover, because they frequently have inconsistent responses from women they don’t know what to focus on next in their process and get no useful data back from the field. There are hardly any exceptions to this rule (although both young and good looking can help).
You see, we actually teach everything including:
-routine stacking
-state alteration exercises
-both classroom and infield drills
We do that because using every available training method out there is the only way to go to get consistent results fast. (and with guys getting laid at our boot camps it’s really paying off).
We’re neither “natural” or “routine based” game – we’re both.
Other people’s learned routines are training wheels that allow interactions to happen and they teach you subconsciously how they happen. Once your subconscious knows how things work and you tap into the creativity of the moment you will attain natural game.
Once you attain natural game you will find yourself inventing your own routines and material that feels totally natural. This will happen frequently in field (that’s how I arrive at 80% of my stuff).
You see a TRUE NATURAL, feels NO INTERNAL DIFFERENCE between stuff he is repeating that he said last week to some other girl vs. stuff he made up on the spot – because both are natural expressions of self.
The best “natural players” out there always still have sound bites and routines that they use all the time.
So how can you learn about using routines to attain natural game?
Ask, and ye shall receive.
Below is the first installment of DJFuji’s series on “Routine Stacking” – which will go deep on why stacking is important, how it will benefit your game, how to create a stack, and ultimately how stacking turns you into a natural.
If you watch Infield Exposed, you will notice, how little I actually stack and how (without knowing what the routines are) you can’t tell when I’m stacking vs. improvising.
That is natural game.
Natural game is an internal subconscious state you end up in not a particular road to getting there.
Natural game is simply the act of perfect expression of self in every moment.
Enjoy the road.
-m
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Routine Stacking 101 – Part 1
DJFUJI
Mehow Inc.
Routine stacking is one of THE most important things you can do to improve your game. Unless you have extraordinary natural ability, not committing to a routine stack is extremely counterproductive. In this article we’ll take a closer look at not only why stacking is so important, but how to actually sit down and create your own stack. We’ll identify the structure and major components, show how to deal with contingencies, and talk about some of the subtleties that will make the difference between success and failure (or as we like to say, “learning”).
As its name implies, routine stacking is the combining of multiple routines (“stacking”) one atop another until you’ve created a 5-15 minute script you can use to automate your approaches. It’s by far one of the most important skills to have in the beginner or intermediate levels of pickup. Even if you’re advanced or naturally skilled, a routine stack is something that will always benefit you. It’s like wearing a helmet on a motorcycle. Even if you’re the best rider in the world, there are times when a helmet will save your ass.
There are a few key reasons why stacking is so important to your overall development.
The first is that it solves 90% of approach anxiety (AA). Whether or not you subscribe to the evolutionary theory behind AA, nearly everyone will agree that being prepared alleviates a significant amount of anxiety in any activity. If you think about an activity you’re confident at and have little anxiety towards, chances are, that activity is something you’re good at or something in which you have significant experience or preparation doing. For example, experience level aside, public speaking is most anxiety-inducing when we are unprepared. Talking about something we are unfamiliar with and are worried about will always generate more anxiety than talking about a subject with which we are intimately familiar. Routine stacking, then, fixes this by automating your verbals. The first objection most newbies give when being sent into set is “what do I say?” This is their intuition telling them that going into a situation without a game plan is suicide. But having this accounted for instantly alleviates this concern. While it does not always eliminate approach anxiety, it severely reduces its symptoms. Stacking is akin to a presidential State of the Union speech being prepared in advance by speechwriters. The best public speakers, while surely possessing great improvisational abilities, still rehearse and prepare their speeches in advance. If these professionals are routine stacking, why aren’t you?
Another key point to stacking is its affect on your subcommunication. The majority of communication takes place on a non-verbal level. Why are we focusing on verbals then? Because the human mind is generally only capable of focusing on one thing at a time during stressful moments. Put differently, if you’re constantly thinking about what to say next, you won’t be able to consciously fix your subcommunication and body language ticks. So the biggest things that will blow you out (pecking, leaning in, not locking in, tonality, apologetic body language, etc.) will continue to blow you out because you won’t be able to fix them. But when you have a routine stack “in the can” (meaning memorized and naturalized), you’ll be able to focus on body language and the critical subcommunication that will make or break your set. Your learning curve will significantly improve by being able to consciously fix your body language and nonverbal while in field.
In the same manner, stacking also allows you to keep on the right track when you have not developed the field intuition to naturally follow the correct course towards escalation. Think of your stack as a map to your destination. If you know the terrain well you can get around without a map. You’ll take the correct roads to get to your destination. But if you are unfamiliar with the area, navigating without a map means going around in circles and difficulty moving in the right direction. For example, a common sticking point among new students is not knowing what comes next. Because they’re focusing on what to say, it becomes impossible for them to step back and figure out what the next phase of the interaction is. They get distracted by the current conversational threads and are unable to lead or steer the conversation in the correct direction towards escalation. So they stagnate and stay in attraction too long and never move the interaction forward. Like the terrain of a specific environment, the model of social interaction remains the same. You must move sequentially through the phases of the model in order to escalate the interaction towards the desired outcome. Failure to do this will get you blown out.
Finally, the key distinction between an experienced pickup artist and a newbie is extremely simple: time in field. The difference between Mehow, Mystery, or any of the gurus, and a new student, isn’t height or looks or even clothing. It’s thousands of sets under their belt. And raw experience does one major thing for you: it allows you to see patterns in human interaction. It allows you to, like the champion chess player, anticipate moves five steps ahead so that you are always prepared. Stacking accelerates this process by eliminating variables. The fastest way to systematically solve a problem is to isolate and remove variables. The more variables you eliminate, the more control you have over the process, and thus the “tighter” your game becomes. By routine stacking, you eliminate the verbal variable of your game. So when something goes wrong, you don’t have to worry about it being due to poor content. Because you already know the content is valid, you can then deduce that the problem exists somewhere else—likely, in delivery and subcommunication. Eliminate enough of these other variables and you end up with consistent and reliable results.
These principles and concepts are obviously not unique to any one method or school of thought. No matter if you follow Mystery, Juggler, RSD, PU101, or any of the other systems, stacking will exponentially accelerate your learning curve due to the aforementioned advantages.
(In the following segments in this series, we’ll break down the exact structure of the stack and how to integrate all the individual pieces to form a natural-sounding and cohesive block of conversation. We’ll also discuss stacking in day game, stacking with regard to qualification and comfort, and important subtleties to refining your delivery)
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February 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 pm
The problem is how to have a 3 hour game plan (in the case of SNL).
Or 7 hours in the case of #closes.
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said, and I look forward to the following articles, but the common k/j objection is:
The ’seven hour stack’ is ridiculous.
It has to be made practical.
Routines give me prizability, the girl’s get excited, and then I lose it too fast when I have a conversation, which has no direction – my objective being ‘don’t give up’.
And I die. and I die. and I die.