Advanced Topic: New Handlers for “Is that a pickup line?”
In this blog I am go into some advanced tech that you probably only have to use rarely, but are monstrously important if you are having issues with a particular girl giving you “You’re a PUA” attitude.
Also, if you love a challenge just for fun then this article is absolutely for you.
When you’re in field sometimes you get a shit test/IOD such as, “Is that a pickup line?” usually that’s because you fucked up your delivery and/or your value velocity is low.
So, you handle the shit test as per all the different ways I taught you.
But, sometimes you just keep getting the same lame, “you’re trying to pick me up, aren’t you” bs even after the handler or you get it for no reason at all right up front the second you open your mouth.
This second phenomenon is typically because for whatever reason she’s really resisting being flirted with in any form. Possible reasons include (in order of likely hood):
1. She knows you’re a natural “player” or pro “pua”. This shouldn’t happen to you guys (never talk about the Fight Club!) but to me it happens all the time b/c well … people have seen the videos, the website, etc.
2. She’s just not in the mood, maybe some random asshole just broke her heart or something.
3. She’s already put you in a box in her head – like this guy is a customer, so i can’t have any fun with him.
Now, if you think about this, this behavior on the woman’s part just doesn’t make any sense at all. And every once in a blue moon just likes to call women on their bullshit on top of making them laugh.
There are bunch of problems with the girls behavior in this case. The behavior is bad for her, and it’s bad for you. In fact, its just a giant waste of precious life energy.
Both 1 and 2 and 3 are predicated on being an issue if and only if she has sex with me. If nothing is going to “happen” then it’s all just a conversation.
First off it’s really, really presumptuous of a woman to actually think that everybody is out to get in her pants … I know that they constantly think this is the case because 99% of men behave that way but .. NO REALLY … I could be talking to you in a flirty manner because I want:
1. Networking for resources other then sex. My charm could go up to 11 simply because I’d like to have a smooth working relationship. Although you shouldn’t use charm at work to get laid (all sorts of possible problems with that) .. charm is useful because it wins you loyalty and groovy working relationships. You just can’t cross the line into an actual sarge, that perceived line varies form woman to woman.
2. I just want to be friends and want her in my social circle
3. I’m intrigued and haven’t decided at all whether she’d be fun to have a relationship with.
4. I’m totally just using her for jealousy and social proof on another girl.
5. I really dig her and want to rail the living daylights out of her, for one night only.
6. I want to have a relationship.
7. I’m simply providing free value because i want nothing at all and it just makes me feel good to make other people smile.
Note that, when you live in the land of plenty, like we do ALL OF THE TIME, you are simply screening or talking to women for reasons other than 5 or 6 90% of the time. Once you have the skill set you are only actually trying to sleep with 1 in 10 of the women you talk to. So already any response like, “does that line work?” (if not caused by bad delivery on your part) is highly presumptuous.
But, for the sake of argument let just assume that 5 and 6 are always true.
So, then she’s constantly resisting the possibility of your cock in her future.
And again remember that I’m not talking about the scenario here where you caused the shit test or IOD, I’m talking about when she wants to have fun, but will logically block it because of some bs reason – so you’re only running this scenario when you 200% sure that she’s just operating on bs not because your charm is actually a 3 when you think its an 11. So, this article is really for guys that are further along in their game progress. The techniques below will only work if you know that at some level she likes you, but she’s just hung up about it.
The bs resistance is always silly though, she’s getting free value with no strings attached, yet ruining it all because she assumes it comes with mandatory cock.
Now, I know that we’re really good at what we do, but there isn’t anything in the whole wide world I can do to make a woman have sex with me.
It’s always her choice.
It’s not like when I talk about being a nerd and my first kiss in middle school she’s going to be on her knees a minute later. Yet, everything you say as a pro is always very emotionally engaging and fun for her.
But, even when my charm goes up to 11.5, she still always has a choice to say no to the cock no matter how giant, disease free, or appealing it may be.
So, literally when women do this style of bullshit mental resistance they are just fucking up having their own good time by being out of the moment and in their head. A fun conversation, is just that, a fun conversation. No reason to ruin the fun vibe due to “cock fear.”
So, I have a stack for dealing with this specific problem. It works great on hired guns shit testing/IODing you too.
First off, I heavily, heavily disqualify her so she gets all the presumptions out of her head. I’ll run harsh, harsh “unintentional/plausibly deniable” takeaway game on her to put her in her place.
For example, I’ll do stuff like use hilarious yet insane IODs like, “you have the personality of a fat girl” with no explanation. Another great one it run mad, mad jealousy. Like find a set thats hotter then she is, bring them all together and then run the conversation with all of them for a bit. Hot women are always humbled when they meet a woman that’s hotter then they are. Also take another girl and get stupid physical with her right in front of her. Jealousy works, period. Sometimes I’ll just go to these lengths to educate someone for fun. If she’s a really hater i’m just going to flaunt it right in front of her in a borderline tacky manner.
That usually does the trick. But, if after all that you’re still getting, “Thats a line, isn’t it” its time to just call her out on it, 10SSA high VV style.
(you can also do this technique first then follow it up with the harsh IODs)
her: <some you’re a pickup artist bs>
you: “Wait … are you afraid that if you just keep staring into my awesome blue eyes … you’re going to want some cock?”
her: “no” (laughter)
you: “Ok good … just keep staring into my eyes then … no keep staring … it’s ok … yes, I call them blue steel.” (do this with mischievous I’m really fucking with you delivery while you kino her arm)
She’s going to laugh and break the stare war first. Then let go of her arm. You win. You win because your making fun of her presumption that somehow something you do is going to make her mandatorily want the cock.
I’ve even done stuff like this in set once she’s already been broken a bit …
hb: <more you’re a player bs>
you: “Lady, how often does a man this awesome hit on you?”
her: (laughter)
you: “Cause you know that if you keep staring at the Mona Lisa … she’s going to make you pregnant.”
Bottom line, any woman behaving this way is being a freaking idiot and you can call her on it. I love to clown the living daylights out of girls sporting this attitude. If a woman you would never sleep with (like an actual fatty) walked up to you and was all fun and un-creepily hitting on you then you would simply enjoy it instead of being all, “Is that a pickup line?” In fact I love just hanging out with fun fat girls every once in a while because they are simply fun.
Or you can simply not bother and move on to another girl thats isn’t sporting a wooden personality due to bs issues.
-mehow
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January 28th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
In the Mona Lisa technique, it should be
her – you – her – you
instead of
hb – you – her – her
January 28th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Good Stuff Mehow! There’s no place in a romance for shit tests. Shit tests are assholes!
January 28th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Just trying to figure out why this works. Are you combating their ASD with your “are you serious? I am not hitting on you” ?
January 28th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
So in other words, the Mona lisa line can be replaced with any improvised outrageous line.
January 28th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
It’s amazing what you can get away with when you respond to a shit-test with a mischievous grin. Much better than trying to justify yourself. Great article! -Graham
January 29th, 2010 at 3:39 am
Ck – you’re right and i fixed it. -m
January 29th, 2010 at 4:10 am
im happy the way you help me to improve my knowledje about women thanking very much please continue doing it ,it help me a lot
January 29th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Good point on the jealousy factor, its highly effective. Last night I used the jealousy and opened a hot blonde girl while my initial target just stood right behind me, silent and staring. After 5 mins, I simply turned around and simply said “Let’s head back to my place?”. Done and done.
February 1st, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Hey Mehow, when are you goig to be in NYC?
February 1st, 2010 at 7:17 pm
oh and In Bloom … interesting style of game. Open girl, show mild IOIs. Then open hotter girl and interact. Then come back and escalate with first girl.
April 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 am
This style game is similiar to Jealousy Plotlines discussed in Mystery’s M3 Model. Except when he has difficulty getting through her bitch shield, Mehow will use mass false disqualifications before merging the set with a hotter babe. Thus creating jealousy in the target, all the while displaying IOD’s. I find that Cocky-Comedy can get through a bitch shield and will alleviate any player vibe pretty quickly…Once I get are you a “player” or “PUA”, I transition into Cocky-Comedy and then they usually let their guard down when I start teasing and busting on them. I use the “You look like you’d make a great friend” on them.