How to ‘Crush It’ on The Age Question … Everytime
One of our blog users “That Guy” submitted the following question recently …
“So what’s your response to ‘how old are you’, and related shit? hmmmm?
I was just reading Elise forums, and his instructors have very good suggestions, and I have audio of them all not working.
I guess that’s sounds threatening, but you probably get this sometimes. Since you are the only one who talks to us proles, tell us your solutions, plse!
Glad insiders back.”
Here is the latest routine I have been using in field to handle this question…
Her: “How old are you?”
Me: “Guess”
Her: “ummm …. 32″
Me” “I’ll take that.” (regadless of what she says)
Me: “How old are you?”
Her: “Guess”
Me: (if shes in he 20s) “37″
Her: “What .. OMG … you’re an asshole.”
Me: “It’s cool … I dig cougars.” (Edge Element)
Here is the variant for when shes in her 30s…
Her: “Guess”
Me: (if shes in her 30s) “17″
Her: “I love you.” (or some other IOI)
Me: “I know … how did you get into this club?” (Edge Element)
Her: “I used my smile … ”
(improvise into next 10SSA element based on her answer)
Bottom line “I’ll take that” and not giving her the exact answer will give her just enough info to keep her happy with your answer while …
…NOT giving enough info to create a problem if its going to be one.
The 10SSA Edge Element followups subcommunicate your massive dominance over the age topic. You can thing of it this way …
Regardless of what she thinks your real age is … she definitely thinks you are over the top confident that its not an issue.
Its that “over the top” confidence subcommunication that makes this stick.
-Mehow
P.S. btw “That Guy” – having audio of stuff not working doesn’t always prove that the material is non functional. There are a million body language and vocal tonality problems that can totally ruin the most consistent and perfect of verbals stacks.
P.P.S in fact we address all that in our “Accelerate Attraction” workshops … we just put a whole schedule with new dates in Europe and North America. CLICK HERE to see if your city or a city near you is on the list
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September 24th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Thanks Mehow.
September 27th, 2009 at 3:21 am
Hey bro..I’m making a t shirt for you that says “sweatshop millionaire”
alll i want is my 3 1/2,,,
September 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Pulse,
I’m sorry but we don’t pay any commissions on t shirt ideas. No matter how good they are.
-m
September 28th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Hey Mehow!
Whats with the tats, man? haha I thought you were wearing the sleeves…so you’re a bad azz now?!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:40 am
johnny boy..first u had a crush on fader,then big daddy,then henry and now it s mehow turn?
and i thought that erika it s the pua’s groupie.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
LOL it’s iambwian!
You silly lil gook; you were a total ABORTION on your one and only BKRS appearance!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Meanwhile, back on the topic of the blog — and realizing that it addresses reasonable age gaps and not huge age gaps — I thought you might be interested in this.
It’s a response from a girl, apparently in her 20’s, to a post I made elsewhere that also dealt with the “way older guy” issue:
“What do you have in common with a woman 20-30 years younger than you? You could be their dad. That is probably what they are thinking and yes, revulsion is a normal reaction to someone that much older hitting on us. Good luck overcoming that… and hiding the ball will make it only seem that much weirder when you try to incorperate kino…”BAD TOUCH!”"
What do you think of that, guys? I could not have made that up.
Mehow and friends, how would you handle an objection like that?
Personally, I found this response to be extremely refreshingly honest and real. It confirms what I’ve suspected for a long time — and it also confirms my own experience, when I was in my 20’s, of how unpleasant the thought of hitting it with a woman in her 40’s or 50’s was.
She has a good point, too, about commonality. Too many of us older guys are trying to reach down into their generation to be like them. It’s a well-known problem, written about often in the community. But the gains are actually quite worth it — getting exposure to new music, cutting-edge fashion, a more exciting world view, a more fun mindset. There’s nothing like being taken back to your college days in your mind. That’s why so many older people who hook up with younger people say, “I feel so young again!” I’m sure Hef feels that way. (But that guy is *really* creepy old!:)
So what do you say to that girl’s response? I think she speaks for a lot of younger women.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:44 am
virgin boy,
I can understand that u are confuse about your sexual identity but don t confuse me with another dude.
October 1st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Steve, maybe that’s true if you look old and out of shape, but I’m over 50 and I consistently get women who are between 22 and 32. They initially think I’m much younger than my age, because of the way I act and dress (and the fact that I work out), but when they find out my real age (which is usually after sex), they don’t seem to be freaked out by it.
On the other hand, there are some I never tell. And I’ve been using a variation of Mehow’s method (a variation I like better actually) for years.
At some point when I do get to look old, yes, I think it won’t work as well with younger girls. But I did see a guy in his 70s with a girl in her 20s celebrating some anniversary at a cafe last week. And he was stroking her face with an ice cube and they were making out, so who knows?
October 1st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
xavier,
Props to you man — but tell us more:
1) How do you “act and dress” that makes them initially think you’re much younger than your age?
2) What do you mean when you say you “get” women in this age range? Do you mean hookups, FB’s, true girlfriends, genuine long-term relationships, what?
3) Are you running mostly night game? Where do you meet these girls?
4) What’s the longest any of these girls have stayed with you, as a partner, whether physical, emotional, whatever?
5) What *is* your real age? “Over 50″ can mean 50-1/2, or 59.
6) What is the “variation of Mehow’s method” that you use, and why do you like it better?
7) What do you mean you “consistently” get women in the age range 22-32? Can you give us numbers, meaning something like, “I date three new women a month in this age range. I full-close one a month. I have two FB’s in that age range.” That kind of thing.
Keep talkin’, bro. If you convince me, I will *pay* you to be my coach!
PS – The working out part, I think we all understand (in terms of how it improves your chances). Props for having the discipline to hit the gym.
I’m serious — if you have some magic, feel free to monetize it any way you like, but I want to know about it. If you can’t convey it to us, then it’s no different than the natural who says, “Hey man, I just do my thing.”
Thanks,
Steve
October 1st, 2009 at 4:25 pm
xavier,
Thx.
October 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
OK, so to answer your questions:
xavier,
1) How do you “act and dress” that makes them initially think you’re much younger than your age?
I just don’t think of myself as old, and I still dress more or less the way I did in my 30s. I act as if it’s completely natural for me to be interacting with them, cuz it is.
2) What do you mean when you say you “get” women in this age range? Do you mean hookups, FB’s, true girlfriends, genuine long-term relationships, what?
All of the above. And most of them stay friends. In the last 9 months I’ve had “affairs” with two 22 year olds, one of whom looks like an anime and the other of whom looks like a cross between Natalie Portman and Anne Hathaway. Both still friends, one has a bf now (we were clear on me not wanting to be exclusive with her), the other moved away to go to grad school but called to tell me she wants to meet me when I come out to her coast. I have another 31 year old in love with me – she just visited from overseas and wants to move here. I’m trying not to encourage her too much.
3) Are you running mostly night game? Where do you meet these girls?
I realized that my best girls are probably 70% daygame, 30% night.
4) What’s the longest any of these girls have stayed with you, as a partner, whether physical, emotional, whatever?
Years and years.
5) What *is* your real age? “Over 50″ can mean 50-1/2, or 59.
51
6) What is the “variation of Mehow’s method” that you use, and why do you like it better?
Sorry, not telling. It starts with “How old are you?” “Guess!” but the ending is different.
7) What do you mean you “consistently” get women in the age range 22-32? Can you give us numbers, meaning something like, “I date three new women a month in this age range. I full-close one a month. I have two FB’s in that age range.” That kind of thing.
The reason I’m still looking at pickup material is because I’m not as consistent as I’d like to be actually. When I said “consistent” I really meant that I get one new girl every couple of weeks but they are usually in that age range. I do limit myself to 8 or above in the “HB scale” though and I don’t go out every night.
“Have you always been good with women, or is this a newly acquired skill?”
Nope, I haven’t always been good, but I’ve had a long time to work at it. Still workin’! I’ve had hot girlfriends since the age of 19, and I only date hot girls, but consistency has been my issue.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Thanks, xavier.
I appreciate your attempt at a full answer but a lot of this is still sort of vague.
I guess at this point we’d have to see infield video to tell how you’re doing and what you’re doing.
I’m guessing you’re good-looking or have some outward qualifications (like the physique), but I could be very wrong.
Whatever you’re doing, keep it up! It’s getting you good results.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
PS – I spoke with a chick today whose father is 63 and has been married for 3 years to a chick who is now 28. They met and started dating when he was 60 and she was 25. This man is now my new hero.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
When it comes to dating, age is utterly irrelevant … unless you think it’s relevant … in which case it will be. Age is nothing more or less than a limiting belief.
Consider Hugh Hefner. Or Ferrari Guy that I wrote about on my blog (who is over 50 but consistently dates women from 18 on up).
If guys lose their emotional baggage (energy healing helps tremendously with this), then their vibe will naturally attract women with less emotional baggage too.
And I like Mehow’s suggestions because they make a mockery of the whole dumb-ass “how old are you” question.
October 12th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Doesn’t work that way in the real world. Only works that way in Disneyland.
Consider: When “The Game” was published, a lot of young guys went from zero to hero in a few years. There are quite a few young PUAs who started out right at that time who are now working for the established pickup companies.
A lot of older guys (including myself) found “The Game” right at the same time, and had just as much time to blossom.
Where are all the accomplished over-45 or over-50 mPUAs? There aren’t any.
I’m talking about guys who went from nerd in late 2005 to swinger in late 2009. You’ll be lucky if you find one or two, and most likely they’ll be qualified by outer goods such as wealth, power, social status, looks, etc. (like both Hefner — who doesn’t know the first thing about “game” because he doesn’t need it — and “Mr. Ferrari guy,” whoever he is — who has a Ferrari).
As I’ve said before, New Age stuff was big in the 70’s, and most of it went nowhere. That’s why you had the booming 80’s and then the dot-com 90’s and the bust of this decade. Spiritual crap didn’t do a damn thing to change all this. Unless you consider Ben & Jerry spiritual.
I think I said this before: Check out the 1980 movie “Serial,” with Martin Mull, Sally Kellerman, and a few others from that time. It absolutely skewered the whole 70’s New Age, feel-good era. Quite handily. Live and learn. When you have this many decades, you see the same patterns come and go.
February 3rd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
On my flight back I made this mistake of telling her my exact age. She was 25 and I’m 40. I think I started to lose her once I did this. If I had only read this before I left! As far as age being irrelevent, I disagree. If she knows you’re specific age, as in my case, then she may wonder why you never married, why you’re not in a mire successful point in your career. I realize there’sways around this, but initially when there’s a big age gap, my experience is that it’s best not to let her know right away so that she doesn’t develop preconceive notions that may color her view of you.