by Dave C

Hey Guys,

Dave C here, wanted to hit you guys up with a common misconception that is perpetuated by the community.

The Myth of Winging.

A lot of you guys probably hang out with wings but you’ve probably never realised that your game is only as good as your wings and vice versa.

Honestly, if you want results the best way to get them is to go out solo … meaning  you’re either going out by yourself or its just you and some girls (more on that from Mehow soon – he’s been running a ton of that game lately – the nightly “micro-entourage”)

But despite all that, most guys, especially guys starting out want a wing – to help them learn, or because they believe a good wing will get them more results (not true).

So we decided to give you this brief guide on when to fire your wing or keep him and tips on finding wings.

We’re giving you this guide because you’re going to get a wing even though Mehow told you not too.

A chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link and, depending on your choice of wing man, that link can make the difference between progression and stagnation when it comes to getting this area of your life handled.

So here’s the deal, the first challenge is finding a wing, in a typical grouping of people in your local area you’ll probably notice that there are only a couple of really good guys or at least consistent guys. Half the time they tend to keep to themselves or hang out with people at their level. They usually already have one or two good wingmen and that’s that.

However, their level of game is not the only factor in finding  a good wingman, you also need someone with similar goals and aspirations to you, someone you can grow with and who will help you over time. Ideally someone ‘normal’.

Ultimately it can take you a long time to find someone who has the right mix of qualities that would make you guys work together and become good friends.

If you’ve already found that then awesome, but I want to lay down some pitfalls of hanging out with traditional wings so you can avoid some of the traps that will slow you down on your journey.

1) Secrets of The Chode Crystal

Where you and your guy friends go out to sarge and end up in a circle, talking shop and half the guys are value scanning the room. If you are in a large enough group this will actually create negative social proof in a room, so that when you do finally open a set you are working from a much more challenging situation right off the bat.  The set knows that you were just hanging out for 15 minutes in a big circle of dudes ruminating upon the chode crystal.

The best situation, if with a wing, is always just you and your wing ONLY around the chode crystal, facing each other and slowly rotating and subtly pointing out where hot sets are for each other.  Look over each others shoulders and don’t rotate your head to value scan the room.  Always face your wing and use your eyes to scan.  If you need to look elsewhere slowly rotate around the chode crystal.  When doing this don’t talk game, have fun conversations with your wingman by all means, it’ll help you get talkative but remember you guys are out to meet women.

2) Dependency

Just like alcohol dependency, having a dependency of any kind on your wings, will make your self development suffer massively. Some guys will go out with wings so that their friend can open and they can just come in to wing, others will go so far as to not leave the house to go sarging at all if they are without support.

To test if you’re dependent then answer the following questions:

A) Do you go out if you have no other guys to roll with you?

B) Can you look after a 2 – 4 set on your own without needing someone to come wing you?

C) Do you feel fine when you are out on your own?

If the answer to these are no then you may be a little too dependent.

This level of dependency will sacrifice your long term growth.

3) Personalities

You’ll notice that the community will have a lot of personalities and drama it in.  These are all fire-able offenses.

a) The ‘Game’ Guy

We’ve all hung out with a guy like this at one point or another, all he does is talk about game, his success level and what he wants to do next. It’s impossible to have a conversation where you can relate to each other on any level and it feels like he’s always qualifying himself to you.

b) The Alcoholic

This is the guy who always has a few or way to much to drink, starts to miscalibrate terribly and cause a lot of unnecessary drama. This guy tends not to add too much value to the set and will only be able to hook up with girls at his level of drunk or worse.

c) The Adviser

The guy who gives everyone else advice on what they need to work on to put him in state but who never seems to be doing anything, he will often be found in the centre of the chode crystal.  Sometimes he *is* the chode crystal. In some cases he’ll even be pushing others into set rather then doing anything himself.

d) The Indecisive

This is the guy who isn’t sure if he’s coming out, where to go if he does come out and can’t even decide if he wants to stay once he gets somewhere, he’ll also constantly be trying new material even though he hasn’t gotten any success from most of what he’s tried.

e) The Gossip

This guy is gossiping about what is going on in the community, on both a ‘guru’ level and with the local guys, this will lead to him starting rumours, reputations and even bad mouthing people if he disagrees with their philosophy in life.

f) The Statue

This guys shows up and goes all wallflower on your ass. Can be seen standing around doing nothing for large periods of time.  Usally the statue says stuff like, “None of these girls are hot enough.” or “There are guys in that set.”

g) The Egomaniac

The guy who believes he is awesome and goes out of his way to elevate how good he is by bragging all the time or writing field reports for validation, he’ll also try to always advise you by letting you know what x ‘guru’ had to say about that kind of thing.

h) The Hanger-ON

If you get to a decent level in game then you will find wings who are simply with you to take value, they know they talk to more girls when out with you, you know what you are doing and they will ask you a million questions whilst not adding much to your game or night out. Watch out for these guys.

i) The Natural

These guys are great at talking to women, but they seldom have any idea about how to wing and will show up in your set at the most in-opportune times, they will also steal girls away from those who are just starting out. You can learn from a natural but they won’t be able to teach you exactly what they do themselves.

4) Friends

Some guys already know the perils of going out with a community guy so enlist the help of their friends, this is fine with the caveat that your friend knows the score. Rolling out with random guys and friends who have no idea what you are up to will lead to them trying to jump in your sets and winging you badly, or worse still they will attempt to AMOG you.

So What Can You Do?

If you have a wing you do get a long with and who helps you grow then that’s fine, just remember you can become limited by either his level or a dependency on him.

Generally winging doesn’t help you because it almost always comes with any or many of the above zillion taxes.

But if you can find a tax free wing then you’re good.

The way you do that is the same thing Mehow taught me in business… to have a good team you have to end up screening and firing a lot of people.

However, ff you’re in a “weird wing” situation as listed above and are able to take the initiative and take action regardless to what your wing(s) are doing then you will find yourself avoiding the traps mentioned and you will find your success is wing independent.

Typically a guy who wants to rock the venue can follow the 90% rule, the very basic tenet is that you are in set 90% of the night. This for most people can be the difference between and amazing night and a poor one. It builds a high level of social proof, it keeps you in state, warmed up and builds massive momentum for you as the night goes on.

This means no breaks to talk shop with wings, just action, train yourself to do this and you’ll find that by the third set of the night not only are you getting social proof in the venue but you’ll be having fun and really no longer worried about the outcome.  The action train leads to running the train with you in the lead and maybe your wings getting some too.

Funnily enough once you start using the 90% rule you’ll soon realise that half the time you don’t even see your wingman for nearly the whole night.

What about groups?

So some of you guys are probably thinking: “Ok, but how do I handle that two-set without a wing to get my back.”

The answer of this is fairly simple and anyone that has already read 10SSA will be in the know but the structure for this is very simple.

After qualifying both (hooked) girls you need to SOI the target (“This girl is a total disaster, I’m going to hit on her all night, you guys cool with that?”) and then start into mid-game with her, if you are using 10SSA then the obstacle will most likely want to stick around because of all the emotional value you are bringing.

If not then you use the SOI to call out whenever the obstacle is being a cockblock, this is done whenever she tries to steal your target away from her.

Examples include:

“Look, while you were away me and your friend, we got married, we had kids… What were their names again? Oh, yea… Mary, James and Adolf… Yea, she named the last kid Adolf, that’s why we had to get a divorce.”

“You again, are you the cause of her singletude?”

“Three’s years in therapy and we’re still on this?”

“I’m going to put you on my new TV show … it’s called ‘Cock Blockers’?”

You get the idea.

Now it’s up to you to decide whether to roll out with wings but remember, make sure they are the right guy(s) for you to grow with and don’t be dependent on them, this is your journey, your story and the only one responsible for your progress is you.

Peace.

-D

P.S. We have just put up a new schedule of our Intense one day infield workshops in London, Amsterdam, NYC and Phoenix… go check it out here

by Dave C

Unlearning your mistakes (And how not to make them in the first place)

For many of you out there practicing, you may head out several times a week and for a while you get better, numbers, kiss closes and then the occasional full close. Then your success seems more stilted, it seems harder to work out where you are and even what to work on next.

I’ve met many of you guys in my last 2 years in the community both practicing and more recently, teaching. The one thing that stands out the most are guys that never learnt the correct habits, they never learnt the fundamentals that were necessary for their success and whilst they can get to a limited and in some cases, good level, it’s ultimately their bad practices that are holding them back.

What makes this even harder to fix is that if you’ve been going out, week in and week out sarging, then you’ve most likely engrained these bad habits, they are part of how you present yourself and consequently they can be very difficult to fix or even notice without conscious persistence.

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“Oui! Oui!!!!”

by Dave and Royce

Hey guys,

So, we covered 2/3’s of the interaction so far, this is where things get interesting and wet.

If you’ve successfully pulled off the first two steps, Attraction and Mid-game, then it’s time to pull the trigger and get things moving towards the pull.

This is where we break some of the more common rules of PU down.

Firstly, you need to seed the pull, this is actually surprisingly easy because what you need to do is seed with something universal, something that women from all over the world love and yet something that gives her the plausible deniability that women often need to let shit go… all the way down.

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Part II

by Dave and Royce

So, last time we went over how to attract a girl who has a loose grasp of the English language. Now we need to address the qualification and mid-game.

Qualification – Through Statements:

Generally with qualification you can’t throw big hoops or get her to invest in stories of her life, so the key to qualification is instead – to make statements. The easiest way to calibrate this is when she kinos you, you throw a qualifying statement such as:

“You are fun”

“I like your energy”

“You’re actually a pretty cool girl… for being French”

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(when you don’t speak their language)

by Dave and Royce

Royce and Dave  here… and yes, we are finally recovered from the MCIP New Years Paris Invasion 2010.

This is a New Years ritual that started a few years ago, the MCIP and G12 programs join forces and have a freakin ball, last year was Copenhagen, this year Paris, next year who knows, but we are going to rock it, wherever it is

Picture 4 instructors, 2 instructors in training and 4 G12 guys … You can imagine the trouble we got into.

But, don’t worry it wasn’t all girls all the time, we took some time out to see the sights as well.

Now, what’s interesting about Paris is that unlike many other European cities, is that the women don’t predominantly speak English as a 2nd language, what’s even more challenging is that the ones that are able to only speak very basic English and the compliance to get them to do that, is 4x higher than any other country I’ve been to. Compare this to places such as Amsterdam or Berlin where all the girls speak near perfect English; this is a whole level harder.

Luckily there’s a fix. And, we are here to tell you what it is.

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In this blog I am go into some advanced tech that you probably only have to use rarely, but are monstrously important if you are having issues with a particular girl giving you “You’re a PUA” attitude.

Also, if you love a challenge just for fun then this article is absolutely for you.

When you’re in field sometimes you get a shit test/IOD such as, “Is that a pickup line?”  usually that’s because you fucked up your delivery and/or  your value velocity is low.

So, you handle the shit test as per all the different ways I taught you.

But, sometimes you just keep getting the same lame, “you’re trying to pick me up, aren’t you” bs even after the handler or you get it for no reason at all right up front the second you open your mouth.

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Hey everyone…

Mehow here,

Welcome to 2010!

I predict that this year there will be a major shift in how society perceives social interaction.

The biggest reason is we’re going huge here at the Co. and it’s our job to enlighten people. (later this week I’m going to share with you some amazing stories of what happened when 10 of our instructors and G12 students invaded Paris for New Years, photos included

Women will pay attention. Most men won’t.

But, there will be increased competition in the dating pool as more men skill up.

In fact it seems like increasingly society is becoming aware of it’s own problem.

For example, go rent “500 Days of Summer” (it’s out on iTunes etc.) – that’s actually a highly realistic Hollywood portrayal of what really goes on.
(go watch the movie and then read my p.s. below).

So, how do you stay ahead of the curve in an increasingly enlightened environment?

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